Which God?

The other day, Chad Brooks put up a post called "Answering the Tough Questions :Part 1." In in, he stated:

While the task of soul-saving (in whatever manner you choose to accomplish it)is highly admirable, by using this format Sunday after Sunday, the evangelicaltradition actually loses it’s focus on the Triune God, and turns itself into afunctional Unitarianism.

The "this format" he is referring to is from a book called Ancient-Future Worship by Robert Webber, and breaks down to:
  • Singing to warm the heart and soul
  • Preaching to proclaim the Good News of Salvation in Christ
  • Invitation to receive Jesus as the personal Lord and Savior of your life.

I'm not sure I agree completely. Perhaps the statement is just a little too broad.

Perhaps some churches are like this. But it is possible to "stick to the format," so to speak, and still clearly worship the Triune God. In a Pentecostal/Charismatic church like Gospel Light, for example, we readily give props to the Holy Spirit. In fact, the Spirit is key to all that we do, as Christ is the center of all that we do.

Not every message is preached out of the New Testament, even in the most evangelical church. There is still a lot of meat left in the OT. Generally, I will grant, these lessons are brought into proper focus when viewed through the lens of the Cross. Isaiah becomes that much more powerful a prophet when one knows Jesus; the "mighty to save" God of Zephaniah becomes more personal, and David becomes an archetype of Christ when showing mercy to Mephibosheph. But the God who provided mannah from Heaven, who gave the victory over Jericho, and who chided and restored Job is still the Heavenly Father. Jehova Jirah is the provider to all. And the work of the Spirit can be seen in all the prophets.

I think that Chad does have a point however, in that we need to consciously be sensitive to the fact that God is truine; that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit, while One God, each has a distinct personality, and a distinct role in our lives.

Growing up in the liturgical denomination I did left little room for the work of the Holy Spirit. Not that the doctrine exlcluded the Spirit, but the Spirt was not put really onto equal footing with the Father and Jesus. I've come to know better now, but I can see the danger.

Our worship sets, and the music we listen to should reflect this. So everyone, dig out your Casting Crowns Lifesong CD and put on "Father, Spirit, Jesus" right now.


  1. Mike-Thanks for the link, I interacted with your comment on my blog. I really like what you say about the OT, it is something that is important.

  2. Greetings

    On the subject of the Triune God,
    I recommend this video:
    The Human Jesus

    Take a couple of hours to watch it; and prayerfully it will aid you in your quest for truth.

    Yours In Messiah
    Adam Pastor

  3. Adam, thank you for the time you took to read and comment. I took a look at your blog, and while interesting, it clearly does not sync with the biblical idea of the Trinity.

    I noticed that you lambasted another blogger for not posting your comments, yet you do not even have comments enabled on you own blog. I'd welcome a chance to discuss your post with you, but I am not joining an MSN group to do it.


  4. Mike my email address is available on my profile. View the video and let me know what you think.

  5. I've watched the video. While it appears well researched, it has clearly been produced with an agenda. The main fallacy of it seems to be, as with your own site, that Christ never claimed divinity, which is patently false. To say such a thing indicates a failure to understand the context of the Gospels in regards to the Old Testament. Remember, Jesus was a Jew, and as such, he used language very specifically to spell out certain things. A clear example is John 8:58. The use of the Greek "ego eimi" suggests a proper translation indicating that Jesus was before Abraham. But not only that, in context, the phrase "I am" relates to the name of God, the Tetragrammaton - I AM WHO AM. See - context.

    Besides multiple I AM claims, there is also the context of the phrase "Son of Man."

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  7. Michael thanks for watching the video.
    And thanks for your comments.

    I will simply add that as the video points out, there is no connection between John 8.58 & Exo 3.14. Because in the LXX of Exo 3.14
    GOD says I am [ego eimi] HO ON ... HO ON as sent you.

    Therefore if Jesus was claiming the divine name as many modern-day believers assert he was in John 8.58; he would have said
    "Before Abraham, ego eimi HO ON" i.e.
    Before Abraham, I am HO ON."

    Of course, Jesus said no such thing!!

    As for "Son of man" ...
    (Num 23:19) God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?

    Seeing that Jesus is a Jew, he would recognize solely ONE GOD.
    Which Jesus does.
    His GOD is the Father
    [John 20.17; cp. 1 Cor 8.4,6],
    whom Jesus identified as
    the only true GOD.
    [John 17.3]

    And as a Jew, Jesus confessed the GOD-given Jewish creed, the Shema of Deut 6.4ff;
    the scribe totally agreed with him concerning this creed:
    (Mark 12:32) And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

    Obviously then, neither Jesus nor the scribe were trinitarian!
    And of course, the scribe didn't believe that Jesus was Almighty GOD.

    Of course, Michael, I will leave you with the final word.

    Thanks again for your time.


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